RHH: Nujabes > DJ Premo. Buy or Sell?

Question

RIP sabe jun

Answer 1

HUGE SELL! is this a serious question? Nujabes was talented and made great music but Premier's work beats his in every form possible. I would even be hesitant to say that Nujabes > Fat Jon, and Fat Jon isn't even in my top 20...





EDiT:



I'm not knocking Nujabes, I bought the Champloo OST just because of him. I'm just saying that even though he's great, his work pales in comparison to that of Premier's. And how is he "beethoven with that hip hop flavor"? its hip hop, Nujabes cuts samples just like Premo. I just think Premo's best work completely outshines Nujabe's best work, i dont even see how there's a comparison.



Go listen to Fat Jon though, him & Nujabes are very similar.

Answer 2

im gonna have to sell but only by a little.



Premo had way too much impact on hip hop as a whole for me to put nujabes ahead of him. I like Nujabes and he is definately in my top 5 producers, but even though I like him better than Premo that doesn't mean hes greater. I'm givin it to Premo. Nujabes and Premo are two completely different styles with how their music sounds.

Answer 3

Sell Pete Rock = DJ Premier Prince Paul > Pete and Premo

Answer 4

Hm.



Nujabes stayed consistently exceptional until his death. Premier was ridiculous in the nineties and produced more classics than any producer (ever), but some of his stuff began to get repetitive in the last decade (still good, but not up to "exceptional", excluding a couple joints like 'Boom'). However, I don't know how well Nujabes would have stayed this good, who knows. Japanese people are known to live for an extremely long t- I digress..



Personally, they both make my top 10, but I listen to Nujabes a bit more.

Answer 5

I sell, but I agree with you.

Nujabes's organic sounding production slightly impresses me more than Premo's 3 minute long loop samples.

For that same reason, I'll have to sell on him being better than Premo.

There are a handful of other "organic" sounding producers out there who can hold their own (influence aside) with Nujabes IMO.

But there are only two or 3 whom I'd undoubtedly place on Premo's level, in regards to his style of production.

But I get where you're coming from.

Answer 6

I prefer Nujabes style more than Premo but you can't go and say he's better so sorry bro but sell, but it doesn't really matter if you do think Nujabes is more talented more power to you.



RIP Nujabes

Answer 7

I'll give it away



Premo is easily the Top 3



I wouldnt put Nujabes thoe I do think he is good.

Answer 8

Sell.



Rest in peace Nujabes though, he was a dope producer. Just not on Premo's level.

Answer 9

Sell, Nujabes makes dope beats but Premo's influence is just to much to not put him as GOAT. I'd put Nujabes about 5th or 6th on that list.

Answer 10

Wow, Nujabes is gonna be the J Dilla phenomenon all over again just like I said would happen when he died. Look man, his discography just isn't as long as Premo's. And even if you matched up his best stuff verse Premo's best stuff, Premo still wins that way. There is no comparison. RIP Nujabes, but damn, you wouldn't have said this before he died, so don't say it now.

Answer 11

Sorry my dude...but i agree...this was a easy sell.



it would be a easy sell with 95% of the producers out there my dude....Its not a swipe at Nujabes...but i just don't see that happening...

Answer 12

uh.Easy Sell.

Nujabes is good and all, but he doesn't even crack my top 10. Premo produced countless classics with almost every big name rapper from the 90s.

Answer 13

Bollocks!



Ahhhh....but I see you have a Honda as your image, perhaps with an H22 swap, and a 75 shot of nitrous. That explains a lot.

Answer 14

^^ 54 just made a great point. Nujabes is the man and all.. but your pulling a j dilla all over again. even though I feel J dilla was indeed the GOAT

Answer 15

Sell.

Answer 16

It seems like you're trying to argue that Nujabes is more talented than DJ Premier, but I think you really just prefer Nujabes's style to DJ Premier's. Nujabes creates a more atmospheric mood, while DJ Premier creates a more rugged, street sound (which is why Nujabes wouldn't compliment Nas or Biggie. Guru could work). Neither style requires a higher level of talent to execute in general. Who you think is better really depends on a combination of who's actually more talented and which style you prefer. Personally I don't really prefer one style to the other, so I think DJ Premier is better because I think it takes more talent to execute his style the way he does. Comparing Mass Appeal to Feather is an excellent way to show why I think DJ Premier is better. They were both constructed in a similar way. They both used an inconspicuous sample that wasn't part of the main melody of the original song (Mass Appeal from Horizon Drive by Vic Juris, Feather from Love Theme from The Robe by Yusef Lateef). Neither sample would be an easy catch for any producer, and they're both brilliant sample selections. The difference is in the way they used those samples. If you listen to Love Theme from The Robe, there's a clear connection from the mood Yusef Lateef set to the mood Nujabes set on Feather. The same connection doesn't exist between Horizon Drive and Mass Appeal. DJ Premier took that sample and completely made it his own. Nujabes was great at hunting down samples that complimented his style of production. DJ Premier can pull a sample from any kind of track, and flip it into his own style. That's why DJ Premier is better.



Also, you're kind of displaying the typical inferiority complex that exists in most hip hop fans. By referring to Nujabes as "a modern Beethoven," you're implying that DJ Premier is a lesser artist than Beethoven. I think it would be better for Nujabes to be a modern DJ Premier. What makes Beethoven a better example of musicianship than DJ Premier? I assume you're more a fan of hip hop than classical music, so shouldn't you consider an elite hip hop producer to be better than an elite classical composer? A while back, a question was posted here in the RHH section asking what the greatest album of all-time is, regardless of genre, and almost everyone named an album that isn't hip hop. Coming from hip hop fans, that's sad that we can't accept our own genre as at least an equal form of art to other genres.



Sidenote: You completely butchered Nujabes's birth name. It's Jun Seba.

Answer 17

Ill sell, but only by abit.